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		<title>By: Sudie Fothergill</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/whats-the-right-length-for-a-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-3238</link>
		<dc:creator>Sudie Fothergill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another lovely post!!! Way to go ladies!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another lovely post!!! Way to go ladies!!!</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/whats-the-right-length-for-a-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-3162</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right! Why not?</description>
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		<title>By: Nurit - 1 family. friendly. food.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nurit - 1 family. friendly. food.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently, I have started thinking about writing recipes as if my children (when they grow up) will ask me how I cook a dish. I would want them to succeed, so I have to give all the details and all the secrets, right?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, I have started thinking about writing recipes as if my children (when they grow up) will ask me how I cook a dish. I would want them to succeed, so I have to give all the details and all the secrets, right?!</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/whats-the-right-length-for-a-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s your recipe style, I guess. If you want to be lyrical or funny or tell a story, a good place to do so is in the headnote. it&#039;s awfully hard to do so in the method!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s your recipe style, I guess. If you want to be lyrical or funny or tell a story, a good place to do so is in the headnote. it&#8217;s awfully hard to do so in the method!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no recipe wizard and this discussion about what and how to tell folks about cooking something new is making me realize what an art it is to write a good recipe.

As a rambler, i like Ms. Rule&#039;s one-page rule for online readers. 

When i post recipes, which i tend to do at the end of long blog posts, i tend to be all business, figuring that&#039;s what people want at that stage. perhaps there&#039;s a happy medium (not, please note, medium-low;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no recipe wizard and this discussion about what and how to tell folks about cooking something new is making me realize what an art it is to write a good recipe.</p>
<p>As a rambler, i like Ms. Rule&#8217;s one-page rule for online readers. </p>
<p>When i post recipes, which i tend to do at the end of long blog posts, i tend to be all business, figuring that&#8217;s what people want at that stage. perhaps there&#8217;s a happy medium (not, please note, medium-low;).</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/whats-the-right-length-for-a-recipe/comment-page-1/#comment-3047</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jonathan, thanks for chiming in. I had no idea Gourmet began as a hobby magazine for men. 

Re long recipes, perhaps you see the recipes of some famous writers as works of literature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jonathan, thanks for chiming in. I had no idea Gourmet began as a hobby magazine for men. </p>
<p>Re long recipes, perhaps you see the recipes of some famous writers as works of literature.</p>
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		<title>By: j gold</title>
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		<dc:creator>j gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long recipes definitely have their place, I wouldn&#039;t wish for Paula Wolfert&#039;s recipes to be one word shorter, nor Nancy Silverton&#039;s 30-page basic sourdough recipe, nor any of the epic, wonderful headnotes of Richard Olney. I&#039;m fine with the couple of sentences in the typical Escoffier recipe, but I love to see the process. 

Btw, the early Gourmet editors were distinctly not expecting a 99 percent-female readership - it was started not many years previously, in 1941, as a men&#039;s hobbyist magazine, and in 1950 it was much, much closer to Esquire than it was to the Seven Sisters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long recipes definitely have their place, I wouldn&#8217;t wish for Paula Wolfert&#8217;s recipes to be one word shorter, nor Nancy Silverton&#8217;s 30-page basic sourdough recipe, nor any of the epic, wonderful headnotes of Richard Olney. I&#8217;m fine with the couple of sentences in the typical Escoffier recipe, but I love to see the process. </p>
<p>Btw, the early Gourmet editors were distinctly not expecting a 99 percent-female readership &#8211; it was started not many years previously, in 1941, as a men&#8217;s hobbyist magazine, and in 1950 it was much, much closer to Esquire than it was to the Seven Sisters.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a lovely post, Jane. It reminds me that we didn&#039;t just invent recipe writing. It&#039;s been alive and well and doing quite nicely, and the Gourmet cookbook from 1950 is a terrific example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a lovely post, Jane. It reminds me that we didn&#8217;t just invent recipe writing. It&#8217;s been alive and well and doing quite nicely, and the Gourmet cookbook from 1950 is a terrific example.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Malonis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane Malonis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this post and all the attendant comments, I felt compelled to dig up my ancient copy of The Gourmet Cookbook, a hefty brown volume published by Gourmet in 1950. All of its recipes are in narrative form, presented paragraph by paragraph with no verbal clutter of any kind. But it&#039;s notable that quite a few of the recipes are barely one paragraph at all, and some are absolute models of brevity. Here&#039;s a three-sentence example of what I mean, for a recipe called &quot;Fried Oyster Crabs&quot; . . . 

&quot;Wash and wipe dry 3 dozen oyster crabs. Roll them in seasoned flour and fry, a few at a time, in hot deep fat (395 F). Drain and serve on a heated platter, garnished with fried parsley and lemon wedges, with remoulade sauce.&quot;

That complete recipe is all of about 65 words. Imagine. 

What I find at the same time astonishing, poignant, and perhaps even humbling about this old cookbook, is the way it blithely assumes a healthy modicum of prior culinary knowledge on the part of its readers. The editors were able to take it for granted in 1950 that most women (and, let&#039;s face it, probably 99 percent of the book&#039;s purchasers were women) already knew full well how to go about deep frying, knew backwards and forwards which herbs and spices would probably work well in a flour coating, and dog-gone if those ladies didn&#039;t also have a pretty good idea of just what the heck constituted a decent remoulade sauce! And for those few who weren&#039;t so savvy with a fry pan? Heck, the editors apparently had sufficient faith that they, too, would muddle through and figure it out on their own. 

I don&#039;t advocate we go back to those days, in part because that kind of cookbookery leaves far too much margin for error with modern cooks, but isn&#039;t it fascinating to see how far we&#039;ve migrated away from being able to handle that kind of simplicity? 

Have we been molly-coddled and hand held into the ground? Hmm . . .

Casey, one of the commenters above, mentioned the desire for a little &quot;poetry&quot; within the text of recipes. I agree with her wholeheartedly. In the yellowed pages of The Gourmet Cookbook, the small poetic flourishes that appear are quaint and charming. The chapter titles alone are whimsical. My favorites are Cult of the Chafing Dish, Song of the Soup Kettle, and The Egg and the Epicure. 

I love a cookbook with a quiet sense of humor, and the willingness to at least allow whimsy a foot in the door. Just like people, I want a cookbook with a little poetry in its soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this post and all the attendant comments, I felt compelled to dig up my ancient copy of The Gourmet Cookbook, a hefty brown volume published by Gourmet in 1950. All of its recipes are in narrative form, presented paragraph by paragraph with no verbal clutter of any kind. But it&#8217;s notable that quite a few of the recipes are barely one paragraph at all, and some are absolute models of brevity. Here&#8217;s a three-sentence example of what I mean, for a recipe called &#8220;Fried Oyster Crabs&#8221; . . . </p>
<p>&#8220;Wash and wipe dry 3 dozen oyster crabs. Roll them in seasoned flour and fry, a few at a time, in hot deep fat (395 F). Drain and serve on a heated platter, garnished with fried parsley and lemon wedges, with remoulade sauce.&#8221;</p>
<p>That complete recipe is all of about 65 words. Imagine. </p>
<p>What I find at the same time astonishing, poignant, and perhaps even humbling about this old cookbook, is the way it blithely assumes a healthy modicum of prior culinary knowledge on the part of its readers. The editors were able to take it for granted in 1950 that most women (and, let&#8217;s face it, probably 99 percent of the book&#8217;s purchasers were women) already knew full well how to go about deep frying, knew backwards and forwards which herbs and spices would probably work well in a flour coating, and dog-gone if those ladies didn&#8217;t also have a pretty good idea of just what the heck constituted a decent remoulade sauce! And for those few who weren&#8217;t so savvy with a fry pan? Heck, the editors apparently had sufficient faith that they, too, would muddle through and figure it out on their own. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t advocate we go back to those days, in part because that kind of cookbookery leaves far too much margin for error with modern cooks, but isn&#8217;t it fascinating to see how far we&#8217;ve migrated away from being able to handle that kind of simplicity? </p>
<p>Have we been molly-coddled and hand held into the ground? Hmm . . .</p>
<p>Casey, one of the commenters above, mentioned the desire for a little &#8220;poetry&#8221; within the text of recipes. I agree with her wholeheartedly. In the yellowed pages of The Gourmet Cookbook, the small poetic flourishes that appear are quaint and charming. The chapter titles alone are whimsical. My favorites are Cult of the Chafing Dish, Song of the Soup Kettle, and The Egg and the Epicure. </p>
<p>I love a cookbook with a quiet sense of humor, and the willingness to at least allow whimsy a foot in the door. Just like people, I want a cookbook with a little poetry in its soul.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cheryl, yes, isn&#039;t it fun? I so much satisfying information from the comments. Brevity is good -- please keep that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cheryl, yes, isn&#8217;t it fun? I so much satisfying information from the comments. Brevity is good &#8212; please keep that up.</p>
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