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	<title>Comments on: Three Recipe Phrases Judith Jones Can&#8217;t Stand</title>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/three-recipe-phrases-judith-jones-cant-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-3805</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you were reading my book. I quote Jones in my chapter on recipe writing. I interviewed her three times!

Okay, you&#039;re entitled to your opinion. Curious about who taught the recipe writing class at NYU.

I agree about your pet peeve, especially deglaze. I have a list of terms that need explaining in the recipe chapter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you were reading my book. I quote Jones in my chapter on recipe writing. I interviewed her three times!</p>
<p>Okay, you&#8217;re entitled to your opinion. Curious about who taught the recipe writing class at NYU.</p>
<p>I agree about your pet peeve, especially deglaze. I have a list of terms that need explaining in the recipe chapter.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika from The Pastry Chef At Home</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/three-recipe-phrases-judith-jones-cant-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-3776</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika from The Pastry Chef At Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dianne,

Did you write about Judith Jones&#039; pet peeves in a post some time ago? I feel like I read about these &quot;bothersome&quot; phrases not too long ago!  

Like many other commenters, I have no issues with those phrases. I use the terms she can&#039;t stand in recipes all the time.  These terms were perfectly acceptable in a recipe writing course I took at NYU.  

I do think that &quot;In a bowl combine&quot; needs something else to make it easy to understand:  &quot;In a bowl combine the dry ingredients by stirring with a whisk.&quot; 

&quot;Mixture&quot; is just fine for me.  If you add salt and vanilla to eggs, it is no longer appropriate to say &quot;Now add milk to the eggs&quot; because the eggs are no longer just eggs.  It is a mixture because specific phrases such as batter, dough, sauce, marinade, etc. do not apply to this type of MIXTURE! 

&quot;Set aside&quot; is actually helpful.  &quot;Reserve&quot; tends to give people the idea that they have to wrap up the item and store it for use 2 days later or something.  Set aside means that you will be using that item momentarily. 

My pet peeve is recipes that assume people know specific culinary terms without any explanation.  I was taught that the #1 rule of recipe writing is that you can never explain too much.  You want your readers to feel comfortable with the language of your recipe, and it is always better to explain in detail than to assume the reader knows what &quot;braise&quot; &quot;deglaze&quot; or &quot;proof&quot; means.  Unless you are writing for professional cooks, recipes should be written in a way that is encouraging to new cooks, not intimidating. 

Then again, if you don&#039;t mind alienating a lot of potential readers/cookbook buyers, you should feel free to write your recipes however you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dianne,</p>
<p>Did you write about Judith Jones&#8217; pet peeves in a post some time ago? I feel like I read about these &#8220;bothersome&#8221; phrases not too long ago!  </p>
<p>Like many other commenters, I have no issues with those phrases. I use the terms she can&#8217;t stand in recipes all the time.  These terms were perfectly acceptable in a recipe writing course I took at NYU.  </p>
<p>I do think that &#8220;In a bowl combine&#8221; needs something else to make it easy to understand:  &#8220;In a bowl combine the dry ingredients by stirring with a whisk.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Mixture&#8221; is just fine for me.  If you add salt and vanilla to eggs, it is no longer appropriate to say &#8220;Now add milk to the eggs&#8221; because the eggs are no longer just eggs.  It is a mixture because specific phrases such as batter, dough, sauce, marinade, etc. do not apply to this type of MIXTURE! </p>
<p>&#8220;Set aside&#8221; is actually helpful.  &#8220;Reserve&#8221; tends to give people the idea that they have to wrap up the item and store it for use 2 days later or something.  Set aside means that you will be using that item momentarily. </p>
<p>My pet peeve is recipes that assume people know specific culinary terms without any explanation.  I was taught that the #1 rule of recipe writing is that you can never explain too much.  You want your readers to feel comfortable with the language of your recipe, and it is always better to explain in detail than to assume the reader knows what &#8220;braise&#8221; &#8220;deglaze&#8221; or &#8220;proof&#8221; means.  Unless you are writing for professional cooks, recipes should be written in a way that is encouraging to new cooks, not intimidating. </p>
<p>Then again, if you don&#8217;t mind alienating a lot of potential readers/cookbook buyers, you should feel free to write your recipes however you like.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 02:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any time, Brooke! Certainly not every agrees, as you can see by the comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any time, Brooke! Certainly not every agrees, as you can see by the comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooke @ Food Woolf</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/three-recipe-phrases-judith-jones-cant-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-3476</link>
		<dc:creator>Brooke @ Food Woolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great reminder. It&#039;s always so fascinating to find out what words really irk food editors. I&#039;ll be sure to take them off my list! Thanks for this valuable article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great reminder. It&#8217;s always so fascinating to find out what words really irk food editors. I&#8217;ll be sure to take them off my list! Thanks for this valuable article.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2010/01/three-recipe-phrases-judith-jones-cant-stand/comment-page-1/#comment-3345</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, but how you get there may not have much to do with her method suggestions. Inducement happens in the headnote too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but how you get there may not have much to do with her method suggestions. Inducement happens in the headnote too.</p>
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		<title>By: Konrad Haskins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Konrad Haskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As fewer and fewer people know how to cook from scratch this advice has never been more important.  My definition of success is making a recipe so approachable that people will go home and cook it for friends and family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As fewer and fewer people know how to cook from scratch this advice has never been more important.  My definition of success is making a recipe so approachable that people will go home and cook it for friends and family.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of people here don&#039;t agree with you, Carol! But her book is lovely, and I adore her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of people here don&#8217;t agree with you, Carol! But her book is lovely, and I adore her.</p>
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		<title>By: parisbreakfast</title>
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		<dc:creator>parisbreakfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just looking at her new book today and scribbling down a recipe idea.,,I loved her last book and gave it out to friends.
Whatever Judith says is right.
It&#039;s that simple.
She&#039;s terrific!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just looking at her new book today and scribbling down a recipe idea.,,I loved her last book and gave it out to friends.<br />
Whatever Judith says is right.<br />
It&#8217;s that simple.<br />
She&#8217;s terrific!</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have put them in a bowl, and then you will add them to something else, they are dry ingredients. If you add a dry ingredient later, just call it by name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have put them in a bowl, and then you will add them to something else, they are dry ingredients. If you add a dry ingredient later, just call it by name.</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For example, flour, sugar, and salt are mixed. What do I call them later when I ask the reader to add this to something else? I&#039;m torn between saying &quot;flour mixture&quot; and &quot;dry ingredients&quot;, fearing that the latter might make people think that I&#039;m referring to all the dry ingredients, when there could be more dry ingredients to incorporate at the end. Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For example, flour, sugar, and salt are mixed. What do I call them later when I ask the reader to add this to something else? I&#8217;m torn between saying &#8220;flour mixture&#8221; and &#8220;dry ingredients&#8221;, fearing that the latter might make people think that I&#8217;m referring to all the dry ingredients, when there could be more dry ingredients to incorporate at the end. Does that make sense?</p>
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