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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Consider the Lobster,&#8221; a Gourmet Classic</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Guidrey</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2009/12/consider-the-lobster-a-gourmet-classic/comment-page-1/#comment-5352</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Guidrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 05:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, I I don&#039;t get it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, I I don&#8217;t get it</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2009/12/consider-the-lobster-a-gourmet-classic/comment-page-1/#comment-2095</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jen, thanks for saying hello. I love that government page on curry. An excellent use of British tax dollars. 

I lived in London when I was a teen (a long time ago), and even then, going for a curry was an excellent -- and cost-effective decision. British food was so bland then, and people saw no contradiction in the other extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jen, thanks for saying hello. I love that government page on curry. An excellent use of British tax dollars. </p>
<p>I lived in London when I was a teen (a long time ago), and even then, going for a curry was an excellent &#8212; and cost-effective decision. British food was so bland then, and people saw no contradiction in the other extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: JenJen</title>
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		<dc:creator>JenJen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings from over the pond....

The appearance of two Indian books on the list was hardly surprising, given estimates that the Indian food industry accounts for 2/3 of all eating out in the UK (via the government website:  http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2003/nov/curryfacts ).

I don&#039;t know if things have changed much from that survey in 2003 (there seem to be an awful lot of Italian-y restaurants on the high street now), but &quot;going for a curry&quot; is often the least objectionable suggestion when it comes to getting a large group of colleagues/friends out for a meal. Power of the most common denominator.

Re: Amy&#039;s comments on the Britishness of the list - I&#039;m sure most Guardian readers would be rather pleased about that.... =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings from over the pond&#8230;.</p>
<p>The appearance of two Indian books on the list was hardly surprising, given estimates that the Indian food industry accounts for 2/3 of all eating out in the UK (via the government website:  <a href="http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2003/nov/curryfacts" rel="nofollow">http://www.food.gov.uk/news/newsarchive/2003/nov/curryfacts</a> ).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if things have changed much from that survey in 2003 (there seem to be an awful lot of Italian-y restaurants on the high street now), but &#8220;going for a curry&#8221; is often the least objectionable suggestion when it comes to getting a large group of colleagues/friends out for a meal. Power of the most common denominator.</p>
<p>Re: Amy&#8217;s comments on the Britishness of the list &#8211; I&#8217;m sure most Guardian readers would be rather pleased about that&#8230;. =)</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2009/12/consider-the-lobster-a-gourmet-classic/comment-page-1/#comment-2083</link>
		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nani, good to know about Gourmet, and good for Ruth for weathering the storm. She must have a tough skin after all these years, particularly after her years as a restaurant reviewer.

I agree, a good reason to read Gourmet. And maybe we don&#039;t get to see very many long pieces like that in magazines anymore, unless we&#039;re reading the New Yorker. 

I remember it generating quite a bit of news when he killed himself. If you Google it you will see many stories. Maybe it goes to the idea that artists are more famous in death than in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nani, good to know about Gourmet, and good for Ruth for weathering the storm. She must have a tough skin after all these years, particularly after her years as a restaurant reviewer.</p>
<p>I agree, a good reason to read Gourmet. And maybe we don&#8217;t get to see very many long pieces like that in magazines anymore, unless we&#8217;re reading the New Yorker. </p>
<p>I remember it generating quite a bit of news when he killed himself. If you Google it you will see many stories. Maybe it goes to the idea that artists are more famous in death than in life.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And oysters? Sometimes they might still be alive when you slide them down your throat. That always makes me queasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And oysters? Sometimes they might still be alive when you slide them down your throat. That always makes me queasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Nani</title>
		<link>http://diannej.com/blog/2009/12/consider-the-lobster-a-gourmet-classic/comment-page-1/#comment-2079</link>
		<dc:creator>Nani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DFW&#039;s article was a shock to Gourmet&#039;s readership when it came out and from what I can remember, Ruth received tremendous criticism for including it in the magazine. It was actually mentioned again, recently, when Gourmet went under, as one reader&#039;s point in case reasoning for the magazine&#039;s imminent demise. 

My own feeling when it came out, was that it was yet again, one more reason to read Gourmet as opposed to Bon Appetit or some of the other frill-oriented food mags. 

And considering, I suppose we could once again question what a good food magazine makes, or rather what constitutes a good &quot;food&quot; writer and all the particularities of such. 

Obviously (or perhaps, I should say-don&#039;t you think?) there are great differences between the writer who writes in sound-bites, side-bars, etc (and apparently what many magazines now want) and is referred to as a food writer, as opposed to someone like DFW who writes about food in this instance–yes–but not necessarily straying from the novelist/writer he was with his fantastic use of language and storytelling. 

Perhaps, also making sense of Ruth&#039;s earlier point that she wants to be considered a &quot;writer&quot;,  not specifically a &quot;food writer.&quot;

Alas, look forward to reading the article again. And Dianne-is he really famous because of his suicide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DFW&#8217;s article was a shock to Gourmet&#8217;s readership when it came out and from what I can remember, Ruth received tremendous criticism for including it in the magazine. It was actually mentioned again, recently, when Gourmet went under, as one reader&#8217;s point in case reasoning for the magazine&#8217;s imminent demise. </p>
<p>My own feeling when it came out, was that it was yet again, one more reason to read Gourmet as opposed to Bon Appetit or some of the other frill-oriented food mags. </p>
<p>And considering, I suppose we could once again question what a good food magazine makes, or rather what constitutes a good &#8220;food&#8221; writer and all the particularities of such. </p>
<p>Obviously (or perhaps, I should say-don&#8217;t you think?) there are great differences between the writer who writes in sound-bites, side-bars, etc (and apparently what many magazines now want) and is referred to as a food writer, as opposed to someone like DFW who writes about food in this instance–yes–but not necessarily straying from the novelist/writer he was with his fantastic use of language and storytelling. </p>
<p>Perhaps, also making sense of Ruth&#8217;s earlier point that she wants to be considered a &#8220;writer&#8221;,  not specifically a &#8220;food writer.&#8221;</p>
<p>Alas, look forward to reading the article again. And Dianne-is he really famous because of his suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: Erika from The Pastry Chef At Home</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika from The Pastry Chef At Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the article and found it both entertaining and educational - definitely a classic. At university, I briefly studied the history of lobster consumption, so I knew quite a bit going into the article. However, I have never given that much thought to the morality of the cooking process - mainly because I have never cooked a lobster myself.     

At the risk of sounding like Anthony Bourdain, I feel that less intelligent creatures were placed on this planet for our (human) enjoyment.  Unfortunately, the lobster is designed in a way that makes it nearly impossible to kill it in a humane manner before cooking it.  The moral issue has less to do with the feelings of the animal, and more to do with the feelings of the cook.  This is only an issue due to the level of discomfort people feel when cooking a lobster because almost all of the other animals we eat are already dead when we prepare them.  

What about mussels? Those are still alive when you&#039;re splashing wine on them and steaming them to death. Why does no one care about them??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the article and found it both entertaining and educational &#8211; definitely a classic. At university, I briefly studied the history of lobster consumption, so I knew quite a bit going into the article. However, I have never given that much thought to the morality of the cooking process &#8211; mainly because I have never cooked a lobster myself.     </p>
<p>At the risk of sounding like Anthony Bourdain, I feel that less intelligent creatures were placed on this planet for our (human) enjoyment.  Unfortunately, the lobster is designed in a way that makes it nearly impossible to kill it in a humane manner before cooking it.  The moral issue has less to do with the feelings of the animal, and more to do with the feelings of the cook.  This is only an issue due to the level of discomfort people feel when cooking a lobster because almost all of the other animals we eat are already dead when we prepare them.  </p>
<p>What about mussels? Those are still alive when you&#8217;re splashing wine on them and steaming them to death. Why does no one care about them??</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Candice, yes, that would be fun to read, wouldn&#039;t it? Let&#039;s see, when would they appear...the September issue might have already been at the printer when the letters started coming in, but it wouldn&#039;t hurt to look anyway. October and later would be your best bets. If you do find them at the library, write back and let us know. Unless someone reading this has issues of Gourmet going back that far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Candice, yes, that would be fun to read, wouldn&#8217;t it? Let&#8217;s see, when would they appear&#8230;the September issue might have already been at the printer when the letters started coming in, but it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to look anyway. October and later would be your best bets. If you do find them at the library, write back and let us know. Unless someone reading this has issues of Gourmet going back that far.</p>
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		<title>By: Candice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incredibly interesting and moving article.  I&#039;ve often been thankful that I&#039;m allergic to lobster so I wouldn&#039;t have to object to it based on these reasons and be seen as one of those preachy, flower power types.

I would love to see a follow-up to this article with reader responses.  I can&#039;t fathom not being moved by this article and would be very interested in seeing the point of view of those who do not agree with DFW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incredibly interesting and moving article.  I&#8217;ve often been thankful that I&#8217;m allergic to lobster so I wouldn&#8217;t have to object to it based on these reasons and be seen as one of those preachy, flower power types.</p>
<p>I would love to see a follow-up to this article with reader responses.  I can&#8217;t fathom not being moved by this article and would be very interested in seeing the point of view of those who do not agree with DFW.</p>
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		<title>By: diannejacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>diannejacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much for tracking down this link, Carol. At least it&#039;s the time of year when you can shoot a morning to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for tracking down this link, Carol. At least it&#8217;s the time of year when you can shoot a morning to hell.</p>
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